What is happening to First Class - can anyone summarise?

I travel from Godalming to Waterloo in first class most days. We typically have 450s or occasionally 444s but i understand these we will soon have 442s?

Anyway, I’m keen to hear what’s happening to first class? Are the numbers of seats reducing significantly on these trains? I travelled in the 450 today which had a new, small 8 seat first class in the middle of the train - 2 pairs of 4 seats around tables  - is this the future? I’m sure there used to be at least 24 seats in the first class compartment on these trains? 


  • Uncomfortable, smaller seats in 1st class on all refurbished stock. Layout on long distance class 444 reduced from 2 plus 1 to 2 plus 2 layout with the same on the refurbished 442 stock to run on Portsmouth line. A reduction in quality of service. for 1 st class passengers and goodness don't we pay a premium. 

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